The Toshiba Portege R835 weighs just over 3 pounds and features a 13.3-inch LED backlit display (see larger image).
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This review is from: Toshiba Portégé R835-P56x 13.3-Inch LED Laptop (Magnesium Blue)(Magnesium Blue) (Personal Computers)
I've had this laptop for nearly three weeks, and think it's great!
Summary:
Pros:
- Lightweight
- Clean and understated design
- Sturdy: most surfaces are made of metal (only the bezel, hinges, and a few bottom panels are plastic). You can easily lift it up by the corner with one hand.
- Battery life is good (7.5+ hours with mixed usage). Also, no "battery bulge" in the back!
- Battery is removable
- Trackpad has a nicely configurable driver (Control Panel > Hardware and Sound & Mouse & Device Settings & Settings...)
- Value; saves enough money for an SSD compared to a competing system like a Macbook Pro (see below)
Cons:
- Screen isn't great. (It isn't bad, though -- just narrow in vertical viewing angle).
- Black color means you might be tempted to clean the keyboard/trackpad a little obsessively.
- Industrial smell coming from the vent in the first few days of ownership (now gone)
- When closed, the lid depresses a little when you apply pressure to the middle. I suggest keeping the included fabric insert thing to protect the lid from keyboard scratches. (Note that keyboard scratches also occur on other notebooks, including the sturdy Apple Macbooks, so I'm not taking off any points).
Overall:
I'm giving this laptop five stars because it represents a great value. I paid $835 for the system, and replaced the hard drive with an Intel X25-M 120GB SSD ($175). The total cost of my system therefore was $1010, which puts it in entry-level Macbook territory.
(Note that the SSD is very easy to install -- you unscrew two panels in the back, swap the drives, and clean-install your operating system).
Why the SSD? With the SSD plus Sandy Bridge processor, performance is superb -- startup is fast (15 seconds from button to login screen, plus 8 seconds from login to loaded desktop). Programs launch quickly, and shutdown is quick as well. I'd say the stock system with the hard drive is a bit imbalanced (processor is too fast for the 5400 RPM hard drive) but at least it comes with plenty of room and doesn't cost much. With this configuration, program launching and startup are slower, and you are stuck with bloatware, but the computer still operates reasonably fast.
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Comparisons with other systems:
Compared with the Air, the R835 (with SSD installed) gives you:
- more storage space (120GB SSD on my R835 vs. 64GB for the $999 11" MBA model)
--- with SSD, similar bootup times (23 seconds for R835 vs. 15 seconds *see 6/2/2011 edit* for MBA) and wakeup times (both about 2 seconds)
- a better processor (core i5-2410M vs. a core 2 duo) and more memory
- longer battery life + removable battery
- a DVD drive, USB 3.0 port, eSATA, VGA (no need to carry a dongle around)
- 0.9 or 0.3 pounds more weight (vs. the 11" and 13" MBA models, respectively).
- about 0.25" more thickness
Compared with the Macbook Pro (13" entry-level model), you get:
- $190 in savings (with SSD in the R835) or $365 savings (with stock HDD)
-- With SSD swap, you get performance gains compared to the MB. With the default hard drive, you get twice as much storage (640GB vs. 320GB, both 5400 RPM).
- Removable battery
- Similar metal build quality (Macbook pro feels a little sturdier, but weighs 40% more)
- 1.3 pounds in weight savings (!)
Compared with the plastic Macbook (13" $999 model), you get:
- Metal build quality
- an SSD (for about the same total cost), or $165 in savings + 390GB more hard drive space
- Better processor (two generations ahead) and RAM (4GB vs. 2GB).
- 1.5 pound weight savings (!)
So, I saw no reason to go with the Macbooks when I could get superior performance and save money, weight, and battery flexibility with the R835.
Compared to other PC systems -- It's thinner and slightly less expensive than the Lenovo x220 (but isn't as rugged and has slightly shorter battery life), and is very much cheaper and has a better processor (but has an inferior screen) than the Sony Z series.
In short, the R835 makes its Apple competitors look seriously overpriced (or under-featured, depending on how you look at it) and costs less than its PC competitors.
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My evaluation of the unit:
I liked the design -- it's quite sturdy (with its metal construction) and light (3.2 pounds). It doesn't feel as "dense" as the Macbook Air, but it's sufficiently sturdy and light enough, such that you can lift it by a corner with one hand. Also, it certainly breaks a threshold in thinness, so it certainly *looks* thin. The CD/DVD drive makes a great "but wait, there's more" parlor trick!
(The design also appeals to me because it's pleasantly different from the Macbooks' design. In my Econ class, it looks stealthy and elegant compared to the sea of glowing Apples. Funny how "Think Different" should now apply to a PC rather than a Mac...)
As noted above, the performance is good, especially with an SSD installed. The weakest point is the integrated graphics, though it's not completely pathetic; I was able to play Portal without too much choppiness.
The battery life is great -- I got 7.5 hours with mixed use (web browsing, spreadsheets, including an hour of Steam running). I estimate you get about 4-5 minutes per percent used (according to the Windows battery icon), or 400-500 minutes total.
There are a few minor drawbacks. For one, the screen is merely average because the vertical viewing angle is not good. Also, a downside to the black body color is that I obsessively clean it with every fleck of dust. The unit had a distinctly industrial smell when it first came, but now it's gone. Also, its lid depresses a little, which I suspect will lead to the keyboard leaving scratches on the screen (this also happens to Macbooks, which are supposed to be the pinnacle of design, so I guess it's acceptable). To counter this, I use the included piece of fabric between the screen and keyboard when I transport the unit around.
Despite these minor drawbacks, the system overall exudes great quality, and I would recommend it to anyone looking for a well-built, fast, and highly portable notebook. I would strongly recommend replacing the stock hard drive with an SSD to balance the performance, especially given that the relatively low price (for this weight class) leaves some money to acquire an SSD.
EDIT (5/16/2011): PCMark Vantage scores for my system are here: [ ... ] . You can compare with other Core i5-2410M systems here: [ ... ]
EDIT (6/2/2011): I visited the Apple Store today. The 11-inch MBA started up in about 50 seconds (not sure what took so long), while the Core i7 MacBook Pro ($1500) started up in about 35 seconds (didn't have a chance to try the i5 MBP). If I remember correctly, the default R835 took about 60 seconds to start up. Again, the startup time for my configuration is 23 seconds.
EDIT (7/24/2011): Thanks to several reviewers for bringing this up: apparently, the motherboard does support SATA III speeds, but Toshiba disabled the speed, thus getting you SATA II speeds. This would mean that it wouldn't be too valuable buying a SATAIII SSD for use in this computer. I'll update this after I confirm this limitation. The screen must be bright. I use it in the car with the sun through the window without any problems. As most, I prefer the matte screen, but any glare is hardly noticeable, I do not think about it while in the sun. I mention this because I read a criticism of the ThinkPad that I think about it. There are several excellent reviews of the Toshiba Portege R835-P56x, Amazon at the time of this review will be sold, and I recommend them. But I think you should also consider the newer model, R835-P70, which is available at Best Buy. I have found Amazon offered and prices are usually better than most alternatives, but this is an exception for me. Model R835-P70 is the same as the R835-P56x, with the exception of P70 including WiMAX connectivity, while the P56x is a Wi-Fi only. Moreover, as I write this, the P70 is actually cheaper. In fact, when I bought my P70, not just a little cheaper, but I can also include a gift card. (Today is not available when I checked.)
In addition to competitive benefits of P56x and P70, the first question you should ask yourself what features are most important - weight, build quality, battery life, screen, connectivity, storage, the processing power, graphics performance, software, and of course . Here are some of my observations:
Weight : I have my unit in my office members. Each of them were surprised at how easy it is to feel surprised. Chances are, you will feel the same. You can buy a laptop has to offer lighter, netbooks and tablets, but in terms of the overall package of features, I really doubt that you get all this in a much lighter model. If your idea of mobility from your laptop moves from one room to another, maybe you should look for a desktop replacement model. However, if you bring your laptop with it is a lot - and you need a good amount of computing power, optical drives, etc. - then this unit is light weight therefore welcomed.
Software: It has Windows Home Premium 64-bit operating system, Microsoft Office 2010 version of the Starter, and a variety of software packages, most of whom are not used.
Processing: Development of metal-based feel safe (and see) remains. There is nothing special in terms of design, so if this is important to you, perhaps you should consider a model with more eye appeal.
Processing: Development of metal-based feel safe (and see) remains. There is nothing special in terms of design, so if this is important to you, perhaps you should consider a model with more eye appeal.
Display: 13.3 inch widescreen (16:9) proportions, bright and clear.
Power : Intel Core i5-2410M ("Sandy Bridge") will be more than enough for most users, though not necessarily for the intense gamer or those involved in video editing or some of the advanced engineering applications. Talking about the players there is a lack of a separate graphics chip, but most users may not notice any problems.Value: Maybe I should have put this category first, because it is very important that someone on a budget, or perhaps I should put last, because you think it can be combined to a feature of all other attributes to be. Regardless of what makes this laptop, this is a good value that I found today. In fact, I think this might be the attribute value as an attractive model.Battery : My analysis about the same as above. You can have a longer battery life, but in terms of the overall package of features, I doubt that you can get much better battery life.
Optical drive: A, more than you can say for most laptops have this light.
Ports: Two USB 2.0, VGA, multi-format card reader and Gigabit Ethernet connections are pretty standard. One USB 3.0, and (High Definition) HDMI port is required.Connectivity: Wi-Fi is a standard, but if you need a broadband Wi-Fi in addition, the P70 model, with
Power : Intel Core i5-2410M ("Sandy Bridge") will be more than enough for most users, though not necessarily for the intense gamer or those involved in video editing or some of the advanced engineering applications. Talking about the players there is a lack of a separate graphics chip, but most users may not notice any problems.Value: Maybe I should have put this category first, because it is very important that someone on a budget, or perhaps I should put last, because you think it can be combined to a feature of all other attributes to be. Regardless of what makes this laptop, this is a good value that I found today. In fact, I think this might be the attribute value as an attractive model.Battery : My analysis about the same as above. You can have a longer battery life, but in terms of the overall package of features, I doubt that you can get much better battery life.
Optical drive: A, more than you can say for most laptops have this light.
Ports: Two USB 2.0, VGA, multi-format card reader and Gigabit Ethernet connections are pretty standard. One USB 3.0, and (High Definition) HDMI port is required.Connectivity: Wi-Fi is a standard, but if you need a broadband Wi-Fi in addition, the P70 model, with
Includes one USB 3.0 port plus a combo eSATA/USB 2.0 port (see larger image).
Finally, there is no such thing as a laptop with long battery life, powerful processing and graphics capabilities, robust construction and low prices. You need to figure out what features are most important to you, and make choices accordingly. If what you want is a lightweight model with excellent performance and an internal optical drive - all at very reasonable prices - Portege R835-P56x (or P70 model) is worth your careful consideration.
Product Features
- Single Intel Core i5-2410M Processor 2.3 GHz (2.9 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology), 3MB Cache
- Configured with 4GB DDR3 1333MHz (max 16GB)
- 640GB (5400 RPM); Serial ATA hard disk drive, 8x SuperMulti DVD drive
- 13.3" diagonal widescreen TruBrite TFT display, Intel HD Graphics with 64 MB
- Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 8 Hour Battery Life
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